Yes.

Well that's the end-game. If we can make a decent resource then maybe
we can persuade someone to get it onto the python.org site.

Phil


On 11 February 2014 19:33, Sean Felipe Wolfe <ether....@gmail.com> wrote:
> How about a page for development of idle? IIRC this has been discussed
> before -- I'm all for it. Maybe idle.python.org?
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> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:44 PM, phil jones <inters...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Terry,
>>
>> thanks for the response. Replies interspersed below :
>>
>> On 11 February 2014 16:52, Terry Reedy <tjre...@udel.edu> wrote:
>>
>>>> Q : Where can I check-out the current state of IDLE development?
>>> What does 'current state of Idle development' mean to you.
>>
>> Well, I'd assume it's like this. Suppose there were two people (the
>> infamous Alice and Bob) working with you on the software. Each of them
>> is fixing bugs and submitting patches to you.
>>
>> But you'd ideally want them both to be as much in sync with each other
>> as possible. So that Alice isn't doing things that are incompatible
>> with the changes that Bob is making. (Particularly if there's
>> refactoring going on, like you've been talking about with
>> consolidating many small files into fewer larger ones.)
>>
>> So on the one hand you would want Alice and Bob to be pulling each
>> other's changes as frequently as possible. On the other, you might
>> want to have some role as a gatekeeper in case Bob starts making
>> changes that you think the community wouldn't agree with.
>> Finally, the changes that Alice and Bob are making are not yet fully
>> tested on all platforms and so not necessarily accepted into the main
>> Python release yet.
>>
>> So I'd assume there's a repo somewhere which is a kind of reference
>> point for "current development release", it's something you gatekeep
>> enough that Alice and Bob know that what's been accepted to it is part
>> of the plan for what will go into the final release, and they can keep
>> pulling from it to keep their development environments up-to-date.
>>
>> If you don't have something like this, then Bob has to wait until
>> Alice's patch has gone all the way through acceptance into the release
>> (which may take years) before he can see it and work against it.
>>
>> So that's the question. Where is the equivalent of  *that* repository
>> for IDLE? Is it just http://hg.python.org/cpython ?
>>
>> Or is that main cpython repo for patches that have undergone the full
>> testing on all platforms, and are ready for release? If so, how can
>> multiple contributors co-ordinate with each other?
>>
>>> This returns 32000 hits, most closed, and most not about Idle. Use 
>>> component=6 instead.
>>> This also returns a table with a column for every field. That would be most 
>>> useful as input
>>> that makes a custom condensed table or summary. The standard condensed 
>>> table (but
>>> without status = open on every line) would be the same as above without 
>>> &keywords=2.
>>
>> OK. Thanks. Yes, trying to figure out what's the right arguments are
>> for the search URL.
>>
>>> Only if the PSF Code of Conduct applies to this list and personal attacks
>>> are not tolerated.
>>
>> I assume you mean that if you aren't prepared to to follow the code of
>> conduct you aren't welcome on this list? Not that there's a different
>> space somewhere else where people are talking about IDLE?
>>
>> On this note, I was looking at http://bugs.python.org/issue17390 and I
>> saw you wrote this :
>>
>> Edmond: please fill in, sign, and send by your preferred method a PSF
>> Contributor Agreement
>> http://www.python.org/psf/contrib/contrib-form/ (back up a level for
>> more explanation)
>>
>> For a patch more complicated than this, the CA would now be required
>> before applying a patch of yours.
>>
>> What does this mean exactly?
>>
>> BTW : Here's the work-in-progress on the FAQ, temporarily on github :
>> https://github.com/interstar/idle-dev-faq
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> Phil
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