On 3/28/2014 2:19 AM, Sean Felipe Wolfe wrote:
Here's the circumstances that brought this up.
I was helping a new programming student walk through some example
code, having him both type manually as well as copy + paste from the
site and we would talk it over.
When it came time to run the module, we ran into a few typos, a few
indentation errors, a capitalization error, no problem, easy fixes.
But the script kept failing on two points: one, it claimed that we
were using non-ascii and needed to declare the file as UTF-8.
Since Py3 expects utf-8 by default, were you using 2.x? If so, I
recommend you have new students start with the latest 3.x, partly to
avoid some unicode problems.
> Two, it continued to say there was an
> indentation error after we'd checked itclosely.
'It' is Python, not Idle.
I eventually exported the file to vim, but there were no indentation problems.
This suggest that there was some other syntax-like problem that caused
the indentation to seem wrong. But I cannot comment without the code.
What we ended up doing, was to delete the offending line and type it
manually on a new line.
This ended up being much more complicated than it needed to be,
I have no idea what you mean. Typing a line is pretty simple.
I think IDLE could add value here by providing convenience features to
get a script back to a simple state, both by fixing indentation
I do not know what you mean by 'fix' indentation but no code can read
your mind. In any case, this is not specifically an Idle issue. I
already agree that we should make it easier to run or create editing
tools. Perhaps Tools/Scripts/reindent.py will do what you need. That and
anything like it should be accessible from Idle.
well as resetting to a dead-simple charset, do deal with things like
accented characters
These are legal, especially in Python 3. I am willing to highlight, but
not blindly remove (and see comment below).
or stylized curly-quotes.
If a site publishes code mangled with substitute chars, you should
complain to the site. But besides that, the ability to run str.translate
on editor window text is a plausible idea.
--
Terry Jan Reedy
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