I agree, IDLE as solely a learning tool makes a lot of sense if it’s going to continue to exist as part of Python. There’s a lot in there now that is beyond the scope of what learners need.
While I’m happy to help with the UI improvements to what’s there now, I have to admit part of my motivation in making it look not so yucky (especially on Mac) is that in its present state it probably discourages future changes and improvements (i.e. why bother, if we’re stuck with Tkinter). I too really liked the kinds of ideas Al brought up in his proposal, and think they’re entirely doable. Mark _______________________________________________ IDLE-dev mailing list IDLE-dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/idle-dev