On 10/9/2015 11:27 PM, phil jones wrote:
Personally I'd say it doesn't smell right to be making a non-standard
Python through a pre-processor that only works in IDLE.

A code translation function can be used anywhere one apply it. Is it better for a non-standard Python to only work in a non-standard framework, rather than IDLE? The answer partly depends on whether one approves or disapproves of training wheels, and wants to encourage or discourage their production, by making it easier or keeping it hard.


What's wrong with "while" if you want simple loops without getting into
range(n)?

Ask that of Andre Roberge on python-ideas ;-).

Or just define a couple of new functions that are more English-like?

for i in count_to(4) :
     blah


while repeat_times(4) :
     blah

(where the repeat_times function would have to sneakily set some kind of
global counter that the child never sees).

Discussion of alternatives to Andre's proposal really belongs on the python-ideas list. I am not the one that needs to be convinced. As with this one, it is easily accessed via news.gmane.org as gmane.comp.python.ideas.

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Terry Jan Reedy

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