Nice to hear that IDLE has fixes in the 3.6/3.7 versions. I'll be sure to check them out !
Greetings and best wishes Peter ! On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 12:20 PM, Terry Reedy <tjre...@udel.edu> wrote: > On 5/23/2018 9:58 AM, Peter Galan wrote: > > At first I have to thank you for your effort to maintain this great >> programming system. >> > > Thank you. > > I am using it to attract my grandchildren to the computer programming >> technique. >> > > Great. I started my daughter at around 14. > > But I have encountered one problem, which is present even in the latest >> version (2.7.15). >> > > This is the latest maintenance release of an 8-year-old version. It only > gets security and build fixes and a small subset of bug fixes. Currently, > most bugfixes are not backported to 2.7. This includes IDLE changes. > > 3.6 is the current version of Python and 3.7 will be out next month. > Please consider starting your grandkids with 3.6 or 3.7. IDLE is being > actively improved, but only for 3.6+. > > On Windows, 2.7.15 uses tcl/tk GUI framework 8.5.15, whereas Python 3.6 > comes with the newer and better tk 8.6.6. > > It is the automatic completion. It doesn’t work as described. At first, >> the automatic completion should kick-out after about 2 sec when, for >> example the user types the name of an object and the dot. Nothing happens. >> > > Completing a name you have started and adding an attribute after '.' are 2 > different operations. Auto-popup is only for the latter. If I enter > 'int.' in either Shell or an editor, a box pops up with the 7 int > attributes that do not start with '_', from 'bit_length' to 'to_bytes'. > > I have 64-bit Win 10 and both installed 64-bit and locally built 32-bit > debug binaries. If you do not see the above, there is either a problem > with the tcl/tk gui framework, which IDLE uses, on Win 7, or with your > particular installation. > > A box pops up only if the object has attributes *and* if IDLE knows about > them. The IDLE doc (Help => IDLE Help, and online) section on Completions > mentions that in the editor, you likely have run the code already written > for completions to work properly. > > The forced auto-completion requires to press the Ctrl+Space keys. >> > > This is required if you have already typed part of a name *before* the box > appears. > > At first, it opens “some” window, but, like in my example, the object “M” >> must not to be followed by the dot. >> > > Because "M" does not have attributes, at least none that IDLE knows about. > > However that window is meaningless. >> > > On the contrary, this box in the screenshot is exactly as intended, and > what I see also upon entering 'M<cntl-space>'. 'MemoryError' is the first > visible name beginning with M. > > As soon as I try to use it (click on it, to move the cursor keys, or any >> other activity with the keyboard), this window immediately disappears. >> > > With 2.7.15, I can move with up/down arrow keys and click after moving, > but there are some bugs. Clicking without movement and <Enter> do not > work. These and other problems were fixed last summer for 3.6+. > > Is there a way to fix this problem? >> > > Some of your problems may be with your installation, but a full fix > requires upgrading to 3.6+ > > > And I am running the Windows 7 and the 64-bit version Python. Thank you in >> advance for your help. >> > > -- > Terry Jan Reedy > > _______________________________________________ > IDLE-dev mailing list > IDLE-dev@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/idle-dev > -- A musician must make music, an artist must paint, a poet must write, if he is to be ultimately at peace with himself. - Abraham Maslow
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