Thanks for your reply. I am addressing your points below..

On Jul 9, 2018, at 9:19 AM, Terry Reedy 
<tjre...@udel.edu<mailto:tjre...@udel.edu>> wrote:

On 7/8/2018 8:05 PM, Schnyder, Walter wrote:

I hope this is the correct address to report bugs. I have two to report.

It is a place to start.  I am sending the reply to you as well as the list 
because I need more information and don't know if you are reading the list.  
Please send responses to the list and not my email.

I am guessing that you are not registered with our tracker, 
bugs.python.org<http://bugs.python.org>.  I can post these issues there, but 
need more info to do anything.

 I just registered to the tracker as walters  with email 
wscghny...@yahoo.com<mailto:wscghny...@yahoo.com>.
I am adding the info below.


I am using IDLE 3.7.0 and came across these bugs on several Macs, all running 
OS X v 10.13.5.

Unfortunately, tk, tkinter, and hence IDLE are the most troublesome on Mac, but 
they are the least well tested there.  Which of the two installers did you use. 
 Have you used previous versions of Python and IDLE?  If so, which, and are 
these problems new for you on 3.7.0?

I used the 64-bit installer for Python 3.0.7. Yes I have used Python and IDLE 
before, the last version being 3.4. The problems are entirely new. (They are 
not due to conflicts with earlier versions as one of the test machines is brand 
new.)

The installed version is:  Python 3.7.0 (v3.7.0:1bf9cc5093, Jun 26 2018, 
23:26:24) [Clang 6.0 (clang-600.0.57)] on darwin


If you start python and IDLE with 'python3 -m idlelib' in a terminal, and 
repeat the actions reported below, do you see any error messages in the 
terminal?

The same problems occur (both bugs A and B). There is no error in the terminal 
window.
But I learned something new: after running the steps for bug A, IDLE is frozen 
(no blinking cursor, not responding to Control+D. However, if I bring another 
application’s window to the front (by clicking on it) then click back on IDLE’s 
window, this resurrects IDLE, the cursor blinks and Control+D quits.


What happens if you run 'python3 -m test.test_idle'?
If there are any errors, please run 'python3 -m test -v -ugui test_idle' and 
report the specific error messages.

python3 -m test.test_idle:   OK (skipped=1)
python3 -m test -v -ugui test_idle:   Test result: SUCCESS

Bug A:
1. From the shell select Preferences in the IDLE menu.
2. Cancel the Preferences to get back to the Shell
3. The shell is frozen. It doesn’t even react to CONTROL-D.
The only way I found to resurrect it is to control-click the shell window and 
select “Go to file/line” causing an error message to appear. Click OK and the 
shell comes back to life.
Note: This doesn’t only happen when accessing preferences. It also happens when 
selecting “About IDLE” in the IDLE menu.

This makes me think that the problem is with the new version of tcl/tk 
installed with python or its interaction with tkinter.  Neither of these have 
been touched since last September or Octover.

Please run 'python3 -m idlelib.configdialog'.
After the unittests repeat, an 'htest' (human-judged test) box appears. Follow 
the instructions.  Does [cancel] hang the test?  Do any error messages appear 
in the terminal?

The test does not hang. No error message.

Repeat with 'python3 -m idlelib.help_about’.

Same as above. No freeze, no error message.


Bug B:
IDLE 3.7.0 doesn’t display tooltips anymore:
1. On the prompt type print(
        >>> print(
    No tooltip appears.

Repeat with 'python3 -m idlelib.calltip_w’

The h test fails. No calltip appears.


Regards,
Walter Schnyder
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