Mark,

I didnt argue about adoption of Unicode. Most people do use it without
realising it. Yes.

I am arguing about adoption of UTF-8.

-James Seng

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "James Seng/Personal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "D. J. Bernstein"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [idn] UNIX moving to UTF-8


> A huge number of people in non-English speaking countries are using
Unicode,
> *and don't know it*. Anyone using Windows NT/2000, or Microsoft Office
is,
> as well as many other products. Many websites use Unicode internally,
and
> just convert to the user's codepage, etc.
>
> Mark
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James Seng/Personal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "D. J. Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 14:58
> Subject: Re: [idn] UNIX moving to UTF-8
>
>
> > Dan,
> >
> > When is the last time you travel to non-English speaking country and
ask
> > the people there when they are going to switch over to UTF-8?
> >
> > -James Seng
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "D. J. Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 4:46 AM
> > Subject: [idn] UNIX moving to UTF-8
> >
> >
> > > Keith Moore writes:
> > > > your analysis assumes that most sites are or will be using UTF-8
> > locally.
> > > > this seems like quite a stretch as it is very different from
current
> > reality.
> > >
> > > For extensive evidence that it's happening:
> > >
> > > http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/unicode.html
> > > ftp://ftp.ilog.fr/pub/Users/haible/utf8/Unicode-HOWTO.html
> > > http://czyborra.com/utf/#UTF-8
> > >
> > > ---Dan
> > >
> >
> >
>


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