John's comments were so nicely done, the only reason I am responding is because he cited me a number of times and seemed to be seeking some confirmation about those citations. (And, of course, I will fail to limit myself to those citations...)
At 05:06 AM 8/31/2002 -0400, John C Klensin wrote: >It seems to me that Dave (and I) have raised two sorts of issues >which are very different in character than, e.g., bidi and >unicode 3.2. One has to do with the _style_ of the documents, >e.g., to paraphrase Dave (I hope accurately), whether they >specify a protocol or outline an implementation. correct. >(i) If there is any question at all about how a given codepoint >... >(ii) If there is a substantive claim that the document cannot be >implemented in an interoperable way without out-of-band >profiling or oral tradition --and I think Dave has made exactly >that claim, although in different language-- then either > > * the document must be fixed to reflect that fact (and, >... > * the document must be fixed to eliminate the ambiguity/ >... > * the documents should be published as Experimental, not >... > * someone needs to come up with a persuasive case that > Dave (and I) have misread and misinterpreted the > document. And, procedurally, I believe that case needs Yes, these are the set of available choices. Personally, I believe that publishing as Experimental is unnecessary and that it would be disastrous. Experimental makes sense when a technology is not well understood. That is not the problem, here. The problem, here, about making difficult decisions, not about understanding them. The current specification has not made at least one essential, difficult decision. As a consequence, someone registering an IDN for use with email or the web cannot know the correct set of characters available to them. The Internet needs workable IDN now. (Actually, it needed it a few years ago.) So, we need to make the difficult decisions, to make IDN workable. And we need to publish as Proposed. d/ ---------- Dave Crocker <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> TribalWise, Inc. <http://www.tribalwise.com> tel +1.408.246.8253; fax +1.408.850.1850
