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Today's Topics:
1. Re: IEPG outreach [was Re: Slides, agenda.] (Fernando Gont)
2. Re: IEPG outreach [was Re: Slides, agenda.] (Chris Morrow)
3. Re: IEPG outreach [was Re: Slides, agenda.] (Richard Barnes)
4. Re: IEPG outreach [was Re: Slides, agenda.] (Brian E Carpenter)
5. Re: IEPG outreach [was Re: Slides, agenda.] (joel jaeggli)
6. Re: IEPG outreach [was Re: Slides, agenda.] (Randy Bush)
7. Re: IEPG outreach [was Re: Slides, agenda.] (Tim Chown)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 16:58:45 -0300
From: Fernando Gont <[email protected]>
To: Brian E Carpenter <[email protected]>, manning bill
<[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: IEPG outreach [was Re: Slides, agenda.]
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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On 11/09/2014 10:52 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> On 10/11/2014 13:54, manning bill wrote:
>> sorry - I guess I was reading a bit more into this. if its posted via
>> IETF, meets during IETF, why is it NOT ietf?
>
> Because it works better as an informal rule-free meeting?
>
> Do you really want it to be subject to RFC 5378 and RFC 3979 (updated by RFC
> 4879)?
> I think it works better with the only relevant BCP being #38 ;-)
>
> (I'm all for making the agenda and slides easy to find, but that's
> a separate issue.)
+1
--
Fernando Gont
SI6 Networks
e-mail: [email protected]
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2016 16:12:45 -0400
From: Chris Morrow <[email protected]>
To: Fernando Gont <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: IEPG outreach [was Re: Slides, agenda.]
Message-ID: <yj9o4mbfak76.wl%[email protected]>
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At Tue, 5 Apr 2016 16:58:45 -0300,
Fernando Gont wrote:
>
> On 11/09/2014 10:52 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> > On 10/11/2014 13:54, manning bill wrote:
> >> sorry - I guess I was reading a bit more into this. if its posted via
> >> IETF, meets during IETF, why is it NOT ietf?
> >
> > Because it works better as an informal rule-free meeting?
> >
> > Do you really want it to be subject to RFC 5378 and RFC 3979 (updated by
> > RFC 4879)?
> > I think it works better with the only relevant BCP being #38 ;-)
> >
> > (I'm all for making the agenda and slides easy to find, but that's
> > a separate issue.)
is it really THAT hard to: "iepg slides" into your favorite
webcrawler... or iepg.org/ and get the slides from there?
-chris
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 17:17:58 -0300
From: Richard Barnes <[email protected]>
To: Chris Morrow <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: IEPG outreach [was Re: Slides, agenda.]
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On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Chris Morrow <[email protected]> wrote:
> At Tue, 5 Apr 2016 16:58:45 -0300,
> Fernando Gont wrote:
> >
> > On 11/09/2014 10:52 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> > > On 10/11/2014 13:54, manning bill wrote:
> > >> sorry - I guess I was reading a bit more into this. if its posted
> via IETF, meets during IETF, why is it NOT ietf?
> > >
> > > Because it works better as an informal rule-free meeting?
> > >
> > > Do you really want it to be subject to RFC 5378 and RFC 3979 (updated
> by RFC 4879)?
> > > I think it works better with the only relevant BCP being #38 ;-)
> > >
> > > (I'm all for making the agenda and slides easy to find, but that's
> > > a separate issue.)
>
> is it really THAT hard to: "iepg slides" into your favorite
> webcrawler... or iepg.org/ and get the slides from there?
>
+1
>
> -chris
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 08:27:17 +1200
From: Brian E Carpenter <[email protected]>
To: Chris Morrow <[email protected]>, Fernando Gont
<[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: IEPG outreach [was Re: Slides, agenda.]
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On 06/04/2016 08:12, Chris Morrow wrote:
> At Tue, 5 Apr 2016 16:58:45 -0300,
> Fernando Gont wrote:
>>
>> On 11/09/2014 10:52 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>>> On 10/11/2014 13:54, manning bill wrote:
>>>> sorry - I guess I was reading a bit more into this. if its posted via
>>>> IETF, meets during IETF, why is it NOT ietf?
>>>
>>> Because it works better as an informal rule-free meeting?
>>>
>>> Do you really want it to be subject to RFC 5378 and RFC 3979 (updated by
>>> RFC 4879)?
>>> I think it works better with the only relevant BCP being #38 ;-)
>>>
>>> (I'm all for making the agenda and slides easy to find, but that's
>>> a separate issue.)
>
> is it really THAT hard to: "iepg slides" into your favorite
> webcrawler... or iepg.org/ and get the slides from there?
After the event, yes. In real time, it would be handy to have them
on the meeting materials page. But it's not a big deal. I value the
informality more, even if it isn't helpful when you're a few 1000km
away, as I am this week.
Brian
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 17:34:08 -0300
From: joel jaeggli <[email protected]>
To: Brian E Carpenter <[email protected]>, Chris Morrow
<[email protected]>, Fernando Gont <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: IEPG outreach [was Re: Slides, agenda.]
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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On 4/5/16 5:27 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> On 06/04/2016 08:12, Chris Morrow wrote:
>> At Tue, 5 Apr 2016 16:58:45 -0300,
>> Fernando Gont wrote:
>>>
>>> On 11/09/2014 10:52 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>>>> On 10/11/2014 13:54, manning bill wrote:
>>>>> sorry - I guess I was reading a bit more into this. if its posted via
>>>>> IETF, meets during IETF, why is it NOT ietf?
>>>>
>>>> Because it works better as an informal rule-free meeting?
>>>>
>>>> Do you really want it to be subject to RFC 5378 and RFC 3979 (updated by
>>>> RFC 4879)?
>>>> I think it works better with the only relevant BCP being #38 ;-)
>>>>
>>>> (I'm all for making the agenda and slides easy to find, but that's
>>>> a separate issue.)
>>
>> is it really THAT hard to: "iepg slides" into your favorite
>> webcrawler... or iepg.org/ and get the slides from there?
>
> After the event, yes. In real time, it would be handy to have them
> on the meeting materials page. But it's not a big deal. I value the
> informality more, even if it isn't helpful when you're a few 1000km
> away, as I am this week.
I think we should exercise care around taking informal strucutures and
turning them into ietf activities. that said this one is an institution
in it's own right.
joel
> Brian
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2016 17:42:34 -0300
From: Randy Bush <[email protected]>
To: joel jaeggli <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: IEPG outreach [was Re: Slides, agenda.]
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> I think we should exercise care around taking informal strucutures and
> turning them into ietf activities.
extreme care
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 21:56:31 +0100
From: Tim Chown <[email protected]>
To: Brian E Carpenter <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: IEPG outreach [was Re: Slides, agenda.]
Message-ID:
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> On 5 Apr 2016, at 21:27, Brian E Carpenter <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> On 06/04/2016 08:12, Chris Morrow wrote:
>> At Tue, 5 Apr 2016 16:58:45 -0300,
>> Fernando Gont wrote:
>>>
>>> On 11/09/2014 10:52 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>>>> On 10/11/2014 13:54, manning bill wrote:
>>>>> sorry - I guess I was reading a bit more into this. if its posted via
>>>>> IETF, meets during IETF, why is it NOT ietf?
>>>>
>>>> Because it works better as an informal rule-free meeting?
>>>>
>>>> Do you really want it to be subject to RFC 5378 and RFC 3979 (updated by
>>>> RFC 4879)?
>>>> I think it works better with the only relevant BCP being #38 ;-)
>>>>
>>>> (I'm all for making the agenda and slides easy to find, but that's
>>>> a separate issue.)
>>
>> is it really THAT hard to: "iepg slides" into your favorite
>> webcrawler... or iepg.org/ and get the slides from there?
>
> After the event, yes. In real time, it would be handy to have them
> on the meeting materials page. But it's not a big deal. I value the
> informality more, even if it isn't helpful when you're a few 1000km
> away, as I am this week.
I?m pretty sure I found the slides were up on the iepg site before the meeting
started.
I agree on keeping it clearly separate and not subject to note well.
tim
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