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Today's Topics:
1. IEPG (Internet Engineering and Planning Group) meeting at
IETF103 in Bangkok (Warren Kumari)
2. Re: IEPG (Internet Engineering and Planning Group) meeting at
IETF103 in Bangkok (Benno Overeinder)
3. Re: IEPG (Internet Engineering and Planning Group) meeting at
IETF103 in Bangkok (Benno Overeinder)
4. Re: IEPG (Internet Engineering and Planning Group) meeting at
IETF103 in Bangkok (Randy Bush)
5. Re: IEPG (Internet Engineering and Planning Group) meeting at
IETF103 in Bangkok (Chris Morrow)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 15:48:29 +0200
From: Warren Kumari <[email protected]>
To: [email protected], IETF Discuss <[email protected]>
Subject: IEPG (Internet Engineering and Planning Group) meeting at
IETF103 in Bangkok
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The IEPG is an informal gathering that meets on the Sunday prior to IETF
meetings. The intended theme of these meetings is essentially one of
operational relevance in some form or fashion - although the chair will
readily admit that he will run with an agenda of whatever is on offer at
the time!
Previous presentations are here: http://www.iepg.org/ .
More info on the IEPG can be found in RFC 1690 -
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1690
If you have some sort of operationally relevant topic which you'd
be willing
to present, please let Chris Morrow
(<[email protected]>) or me know.
W
[ Yes, yes we did send the call for items later than usual -- this was
intentional, and in no way a completely oversight :-P ]
--
I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad idea in
the first place.
This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing
regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair of
pants.
---maf
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 17:04:06 +0200
From: Benno Overeinder <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: IEPG (Internet Engineering and Planning Group) meeting at
IETF103 in Bangkok
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Warren,
Not a presentation proposal yet, but an idea: How Stuff Works.
Not new research or insights, but 10 minutes on a tiny part of our beautiful
shiny internet. For example, in the DNS, upstream selection for resolvers. A
nice isolated subject, important for the user experience but also stability,
and probably not many ever wondered if or whether that is an issue.
I am sure other IETF participants have similar topics that are important to the
functioning of the internet, but is not described/defined in RFCs.
-- Benno
Warren Kumari <[email protected]> schreef op 15 oktober 2018 15:48:29 CEST:
>The IEPG is an informal gathering that meets on the Sunday prior to
>IETF
>meetings. The intended theme of these meetings is essentially one of
>operational relevance in some form or fashion - although the chair will
>readily admit that he will run with an agenda of whatever is on offer
>at
>the time!
>
>Previous presentations are here: http://www.iepg.org/ .
>
>More info on the IEPG can be found in RFC 1690 -
>https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1690
>
>If you have some sort of operationally relevant topic which you'd
>be willing
>to present, please let Chris Morrow
>(<[email protected]>) or me know.
>
>W
>
>[ Yes, yes we did send the call for items later than usual -- this was
>intentional, and in no way a completely oversight :-P ]
>
>--
>I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad
>idea in
>the first place.
>This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing
>regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair of
>pants.
> ---maf
--
Verstuurd vanaf mijn Android apparaat met K-9 Mail. Excuseer mijn beknoptheid.
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 17:11:28 +0200
From: Benno Overeinder <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: IEPG (Internet Engineering and Planning Group) meeting at
IETF103 in Bangkok
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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Sorry IEPG list, this was just an idea I wanted to test with Warren before
sending out to the mailing list. I think that sending a reply from a mobile
phone doesn't count as an excuse.
But please speak-up if you think it would be an interesting idea, or not.
Cheers,
-- Benno
-- Benno
Benno Overeinder <[email protected]> schreef op 15 oktober 2018 17:04:06 CEST:
>Warren,
>
>Not a presentation proposal yet, but an idea: How Stuff Works.
>
>Not new research or insights, but 10 minutes on a tiny part of our
>beautiful shiny internet. For example, in the DNS, upstream selection
>for resolvers. A nice isolated subject, important for the user
>experience but also stability, and probably not many ever wondered if
>or whether that is an issue.
>
>I am sure other IETF participants have similar topics that are
>important to the functioning of the internet, but is not
>described/defined in RFCs.
>
>-- Benno
>
>
>Warren Kumari <[email protected]> schreef op 15 oktober 2018 15:48:29
>CEST:
>>The IEPG is an informal gathering that meets on the Sunday prior to
>>IETF
>>meetings. The intended theme of these meetings is essentially one of
>>operational relevance in some form or fashion - although the chair
>will
>>readily admit that he will run with an agenda of whatever is on offer
>>at
>>the time!
>>
>>Previous presentations are here: http://www.iepg.org/ .
>>
>>More info on the IEPG can be found in RFC 1690 -
>>https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1690
>>
>>If you have some sort of operationally relevant topic which you'd
>>be willing
>>to present, please let Chris Morrow
>>(<[email protected]>) or me know.
>>
>>W
>>
>>[ Yes, yes we did send the call for items later than usual -- this was
>>intentional, and in no way a completely oversight :-P ]
>>
>>--
>>I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad
>>idea in
>>the first place.
>>This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing
>>regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair
>of
>>pants.
>> ---maf
>
>--
>Verstuurd vanaf mijn Android apparaat met K-9 Mail. Excuseer mijn
>beknoptheid.
--
Verstuurd vanaf mijn Android apparaat met K-9 Mail. Excuseer mijn beknoptheid.
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 17:14:06 +0200
From: Randy Bush <[email protected]>
To: Benno Overeinder <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: IEPG (Internet Engineering and Planning Group) meeting at
IETF103 in Bangkok
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so, simple things which work; so the ietf has clear targets to add
complexity? :)
randy, it's getting late here
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 12:46:20 -0400
From: Chris Morrow <[email protected]>
To: Randy Bush <[email protected]>
Cc: Benno Overeinder <[email protected]>, [email protected]
Subject: Re: IEPG (Internet Engineering and Planning Group) meeting at
IETF103 in Bangkok
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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On Mon, 15 Oct 2018 11:14:06 -0400,
Randy Bush <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> so, simple things which work; so the ietf has clear targets to add
> complexity? :)
actually.. I really liked benno's idea... mostly because there are a
stunningly large number of conversations I've had over the years with
people about how 'basic plumbing' works.
often I'm on the receiving side of the 'no, it works like...' part of
those conversations :)
-chris
(so, an 'up-vote' for benno picking 1 topic to do this with...)
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