Hi Loa, We have multiple sources of feedback. Individual complaints are one and the meeting survey is another. See Q11-13 at https://www.surveymonkey.com/results/SM-KDSV3LH9V/
Of course, the point of publishing the preliminary agenda (what we did last week) is to solicit even further feedback before the agenda is finalized. Alissa > On Feb 25, 2019, at 3:34 AM, Loa Andersson <[email protected]> wrote: > > Folks, > > I strongly agree with Stewart Lou, I think that we sent a strong message > to the IESG that any experiment that decreases the the number of > available slots is causing problem and should be avoided. Instead we > have another such experiment :(. > > Stewart, you are not alone, but I think what you see is that more and > more people feel that they are not listen too, because the opinions we > have is not what the people that should list don't want to hear them. > > /Loa > > > >> On 2019-02-24 19:48, Lou Berger wrote: >> nope. Couldn't agree me more. These experiments seem to me to be reducing >> the value of the meetings. >> Yes, people meet on their own during the meeting, but this has always worked >> pretty well in self organizing ways - and having rooms formally available >> for this *is* helpful in this regard. >> Lou >>> On 2/24/2019 3:24 AM, Stewart Bryant wrote: >>> Am I alone I wishing that the IESG had used this time to address the >>> unacceptable number of scheduling conflicts that exist in the meeting >>> agenda? >>> >>> Stewart >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>>> On 23 Feb 2019, at 11:13, Alissa Cooper <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Thank you, Secretariat. >>>> >>>> We got a bunch of feedback after the last meeting (and previously) that >>>> people want to experiment with open time in the schedule. We’re trying it >>>> on Wednesday this time. Depending on how people like it we can try >>>> something different or not at future meetings. >>>> >>>> Alissa >>>> >>>>> On Feb 23, 2019, at 12:08 AM, IETF Agenda <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>> >>>>> Our message earlier today announcing the preliminary agenda [1] was >>>>> missing some further context. As previously mentioned by Alissa after >>>>> IETF 103 [2], the IESG wanted to continue the unstructured time >>>>> experiment at IETF 104. >>>>> >>>>> Wednesday's schedule has regular sessions until 13:20, unstructured time >>>>> in the afternoon, and the plenary in the evening at 17:10. This leaves >>>>> almost four hours of unstructured time for attendees to reserve for side >>>>> meetings. During this period, there will also be one unique Technology >>>>> Deep Dive session with the acronym WGTLGO [3]. >>>>> >>>>> Monday through Friday, we will have two rooms available for attendees to >>>>> reserve for side meetings as usual. On Wednesday afternoon, we will have >>>>> five rooms available for side meetings. Further details about how to sign >>>>> up for these rooms will be announced shortly. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> IETF Secretariat >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> [1] >>>>> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-announce/_JeP2fQ7rHPosZWpNtpl8I_uL5U >>>>> >>>>> [2] >>>>> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-announce/H64AuTYhxsGqM1a8BfTkszCZyso >>>>> >>>>> [3] https://www.ietf.org/blog/ietf104-bofs/ >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> 104all mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/104all >>> > > -- > > > Loa Andersson email: [email protected] > Senior MPLS Expert > Bronze Dragon Consulting phone: +46 739 81 21 64
