On 1/11/2023 8:15 AM, Grant Taylor wrote:
I'd think that both are a replay.  A signature that validates would be a successful replay while a signature that fails is a failed replay.  But both are replays to me.

Remember, an attack doesn't need to succeed to be considered an attack.

If the DKIM signature fails, then the message is just classic spam.  Yes it's an attack, but it is 'just' a regular spam attack.

What distinguishes DKIM Replay from average spam is its use of the signing domain's reputation.  If DKIM does not validate, that reputation does not come into play.  (Remember that the specification says a failed DKIM is the same as no DKIM present.)


d/

ps. this exchange nicely demonstrates the need to make sure the wg documents on Replay are extremely clear and precise.

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