On Tuesday, April 4, 2023 12:52:51 PM EDT Michael Thomas wrote:
> While a good start, this document is far too vague about what the
> current state of the problem actually is for those who of us who are not
> part of industry groups privy to more information.

To this specific point, I think any lack of crispness about the problem in the 
draft is reflective of uncertainty about how to describe it and we need to work 
on improving it.

As it happens, I was present at the industry group meeting in question (which 
is highly unusual for me, I was there for something unrelated) and as far as I 
can recall, everything that was discussed regarding the scope of the problem 
in that meeting has also been discussed here.  I don't think there's a 
reservoir of insider data that only some people know about.  I'm sure there 
are people in the working group who have access to more data as a result of 
their day job, but that's always true.

I think the fact that this work originated out of some private discussions is 
not material to where we go from here.

Scott K


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