Jeremy Harris wrote in
 <25aead67-8b9f-1db0-076d-12620a394...@wizmail.org>:
 |On 07/08/2023 05:22, Jesse Thompson wrote:
 |> For messages which are originally submitted as BCC and, depending \
 |> on the circumstances, it's necessary for us to identify the recipient \
 |> in the headers, what is/should be the standard header to use for \
 |> this purpose? BCC? Forwarded-to?
 |
 |There is no such header.  That's the whole point of a bcc; it's Blind.
 |If there was one it would have to be a separate message to the one \
 |it is a copy of.

That was where Dave Crocker's per-RCPT-TO comes in.
I did not know about draft-levine-dkim-conditional before, but
what is wrong with extending DKIM as such, instead of having all
those other things like DMARC etc.

You could include some more tags in the DKIM signature, one that
signals that another per-receiver DKIM signature MUST be present
(in an "outer envelope", ie, in a line that passed aka already
having been read when this one is seen), a special one that
correlates a RCPT-TO to the checksum/xy of the full DKIM currently
processed.  A minimized variant.

You could define a DKIM specific ML header that takes some fields
and their bodies from the pre-resent message (maybe compressed,
surely base64 encoded to make them joinable to a comma-separated
list), and MUST include that in the DKIM signature.  (So receivers
can restore the original content of said headers, and compare it
against the (still included) DKIM signature of an "inner envelope"
(presuming that new headers in the outermost envelope continue to
simply be prepended; of course some other headers are mixed or
suffixed, mailing-list software often does this for the
ML-specific headers).  That is, enable restoration and DKIM
checking of the original, pre-modified message.
This re-enables proper SPF checking, at least during DKIM
verification, and could thus restore mailing-list operation as was
known for decades, unless i am mistaken.  (In an all-DKIM world.)

--steffen
|
|Der Kragenbaer,                The moon bear,
|der holt sich munter           he cheerfully and one by one
|einen nach dem anderen runter  wa.ks himself off
|(By Robert Gernhardt)

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