On Tuesday 01 August 2006 07:57, Stephen Farrell wrote:
> Scott Kitterman wrote:
> > On Tuesday 01 August 2006 05:12, Stephen Farrell wrote:
> >> Scott Kitterman wrote:
> >>>> Message from A, signed by A and B; does SSP matter? (I hope not.)
> >>>
> >>> In my book it's the same as A signed by A.  The only concern I would
> >>> have is if B added content, what to do about that, I'm not sure.  I
> >>> expect that's probably a question for receiver policy and unlikely to
> >>> be standardized.
> >>>
> >>>> Message from A, signed by C; SSP says nothing about C.
> >>>
> >>> Yes.  Then how to treat this would be a question of what A's SSP says
> >>> (is the list exclusive or not) and the receiver policy.
> >>
> >> I still don't understand why we care if someone adds a signature and
> >> does nothing else.
> >>
> >> If B adds a signature covering a header not covered by A's signature,
> >> then I can imagine that the verifier might want to treat that header
> >> differently from those signed by A. But ignore that for now - if both
> >> A and B sign exactly the same headers+content, then what bad thing
> >> can happen? (That would cause A to want a countermeasure.)
> >
> > Agreed, but in the multiple signature case my caveat was limited to the
> > case of the second signer adding content.  If B adds a signature, but
> > does not modify the content of the message, then I don't think the
> > verifier would treat them differently.
>
> I do think the verifier might treat them differently, but the point is
> that B's additional signature isn't harmful in any way, which would
> imply that there's no need to express the following in SSP: "Only
> these signers are supposed to sign my mail". (We may or may not want
> to be able to say "One of these signers must sign my mail", but
> that's different.)
>
> I guess, if agreed, that'd suggest a potential non-requirement for SSP,
> "no need to specify who's not supposed to sign".
>
I can see that.

> > As I read the later case, the only signature present (C's) is not one
> > that is included in A's SSP.  In this case we have a message with a
> > signature that is outside the scope what A has said is authorized (or not
> > included in A's authoritative list).  If A is a high profile phishing
> > target and signs all of it's mail, then it would be useful (I think) for
> > receivers to recognize that the message has been signed by someone other
> > than who A said it would.
>
> In that case its the absence of A's signature that is the problem and
> not the presence of C's signature, so to me it seems like the same case
> really. But I suspect we agree about this.
>
Yes.  Agreed.

Scott K
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