On Oct 5, 2006, at 10:14 AM, Dave Crocker wrote:

Folks,

Although it's great fun to schedule a time for everyone to use jabber together, there is nothing preventing our conducting exactly the same style of process over email.

I know that might sound revolutionary, but it used to work pretty well, before IM became popular.

This merely requires that we have a discussion 'chair' who introduces the next topic, provides a bit of on-going oversight, and declares a topic closed when it is.

Agreed.

Email supports this effort in a manner that Jabber does not. Email offers a means to split conversations into threads, and redirect message sources. Jabber topics are announced opened/closed, where responses are limited to short blurbs. This is done while participants track conversations offering a maze of abbreviated, numerated, and hyphenated references from a variety of sources. The number of displays available becomes a limiting factor in being able to participate effectively, as time is extremely limited.

This effort is made even more complex with various server related failures, where responses must be real-time before a topic is changed and further discussion is thwarted. The half dozen jabber participants is a sizable reduction from the mailing-list, and should not be considered representative.

Jabber limits both the time and response any participant is permitted. An inability to offer comprehensive responses should not be considered improved behavior. The last two points brought to the list slammed in the jabber session were revived only after comprehensive responses were permitted within the larger community.

The reduced activity on this list at times seems to demonstrate these are conversations. An exchange of concepts, where indeed not everyone has the same perspective, should not be seen as a problem, but rather as offering better review.


-Doug
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