> C) I can sell the ability to do 3rd party DKIM signing for those companies 
> who are described in A)

Oh, OK, so what we need is better DNS provisioning tools.  Problem solved, 
as far as the IETF is concerned.

R's,
John

> ________________________________________
> From: [email protected] [[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of John Levine [[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 8:38 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: [ietf-dkim]  The mystery of third party signatures
>
>> In light of the comments by Bill Oxley and my belief that the ability of
>> a domain to designate signing by a specified 3rd party is useful, ...
>
> It would really be helpful if you two could explain WHY you think it's
> useful.  Given the way that DKIM works, there's only two possible
> benefits from third party signatures.  Say we want to have isp.com
> signing for its customer a.com:
>
> A) a.com sends its mail through isp.com's system, a.com is unable to
> sign mail before it's relayed to the smarthost, and it's too hard for
> isp.com to apply an a.com signature
>
> B) Nobody's heard of a.com, so it wants to benefit from the reputation
> of isp.com.
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