On 05/26/2010 10:42 AM, Steve Atkins wrote:
>
> On May 26, 2010, at 10:13 AM, Steve Atkins wrote:
>
>>
>> On May 26, 2010, at 10:11 AM, Michael Thomas wrote:
>>
>>> On 05/26/2010 09:58 AM, Steve Atkins wrote:
>>>> On May 26, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Brett McDowell wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I respectfully disagree with you.
>>>>>
>>>>> We *were* a special case.  Soon we will not be a special case because 
>>>>> ADSP will enable all mailbox providers, if they choose, to do for others 
>>>>> what they have historically done for us.  That's the big win that only 
>>>>> ADSP could ever enable.
>>>>>
>>>>> Apparently such an announcement is going to come as a surprise to many of 
>>>>> you on this list, but it shouldn't.  It's the logical conclusion of the 
>>>>> ADSP work.
>>>>
>>>> I'm big on concrete examples. So how does your logical conclusion deal 
>>>> with these two situations?
>>>>
>>>>    $ host -t txt _adsp._domainkey.paypaI.me
>>>>    _adsp._domainkey.paypaI.me descriptive text "dkim=discardable"
>>>>
>>>>    $ host -t txt _adsp._domainkey.paypal.com
>>>>    _adsp._domainkey.paypal.com descriptive text "dkim=discardable"
>>>>
>>>
>>> Huh? What does that have to do with anything? John is wrong: ADSP allows 
>>> them to
>>> get rid of the "special case" handling by Y! and G. This is hardly 
>>> controversial.
>>
>>
>> Could you expand on why you think that?
>
> Michael claims off-list that he has no idea what I'm speaking of.
>
> So, to be more specific, I'm implicitly asking two things.
>
>      1. Should those domains be treated differently by the recipient ISP?
>
>      2. How does ADSP help them make that decision?
>
> There's probably a third followup question if the answer to "2" involves 
> maintaining a list of domains, but that can wait.

Oops, I didn't mean those to be off-list... don't know how that happened. Given 
where this
is going, that may have been a blessing missed.

I really don't understand what the look-alike domain name has to do with 
anything. It's
well understood that ADSP doesn't claim to help that. But for bit-for-bit 
copies of the
discardable domain's name, Brett is right: ADSP allows his "special case" 
arrangement
with G and Y! to scale to anybody who might want to have the same "agreement". 
I don't
see why this is controversial.

Mike
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