Maybe way to reduce the rhetoric is to hmmmmm, huh, maybe following the engineering molded into the WG RFC draft standards and to correct the non-WG created DKIM Deployment RFC by not allowing it to suggest implementators can break the WG RFC draft standards?
That might help. Michael Thomas wrote: > On 09/01/2010 02:49 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: >>> If your goal is to have MLM developers rewrite their perfectly working >>> code to work around the fundamental flaws in ADSP - a protocol nobody >>> other than bulk mailers is interested in, and which in any even >>> marginally sane deployment would never interact with mailing lists at >>> all - I think you're going to be disappointed. > > "No Mr. Bond, I want you to die". > >> Setting aside ADSP for a second, I think there are still some people that >> would like to see MLMs preserve author signatures for the purposes of >> reputation evaluation. > > The implicit argument being made amongst the more vocal set here is that > since mailing lists coexisted with cavemen and dinosaurs, that their very > antiquity puts them beyond the scope of evolution. That if it wasn't > intelligently designed in o those 5000 years ago, that they have no > responsibility for the current internet's trials and tribulations. > > The fact of the matter is that mailing lists survival or extinction > is utterly irrelevant to the internet at large; if we did harm to them, > nobody using the internet at large would care. Hence all of this hand > wringing about whether mailing list developers or operators will > petulantly stamp their feet and take their marbles home presumes they > have power they do not actually hold. > > This draft shouldn't be starting from the perspective of what reactionary > old fogies will or won't do. It should be starting from the perspective > of what's right for email as it's actually used today. If what's right > is that unsigned mail should become a pariah -- which I suspect is the > right thing -- then all of the howls of indignation should just be ignored. > And as is always the case, the whiners will figure something out if the, > uh, laser is positioned correctly. > > Mike > _______________________________________________ > NOTE WELL: This list operates according to > http://mipassoc.org/dkim/ietf-list-rules.html > > -- Hector Santos, CTO http://www.santronics.com http://santronics.blogspot.com _______________________________________________ NOTE WELL: This list operates according to http://mipassoc.org/dkim/ietf-list-rules.html
