On Sep 28, 2010, at 11:34 AM, J.D. Falk wrote:

> On Sep 24, 2010, at 11:05 AM, John Levine wrote:
> 
>>> Do concepts generalize enough to allow issuing
>>> draft-ietf-dkim-mailinglists also for these "authoring" MLMs?
>> 
>> No.  All of the complications in mailing lists arise from the fact
>> that the author of the message is not related to the operator of the
>> list.
>> 
>> Even though ESPs are generally sending mail on behalf of customers,
>> their relationship to the customers allows them to be the customer, as
>> far as mail authentication is concerned.  There are some issues about
>> how a customer delegates part of its identity to its ESP, but they are
>> completely, totally, unrelated to the MLM issues we've been arguing
>> about.
> 
> A document on those delegation issues might be helpful also.

I cover the main approaches I'm aware of, briefly, at 
http://dkimcore.org/deployment/esp.html

I'm planning on fleshing that out a bit this weekend[1] to turn it into more of 
a design manual. If anyone has any docs or thoughts about ESP-style DKIM 
delegation I'd love to share.

Cheers,
  Steve

[1] Yay for long, boring plane flights!
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