On 12 May 2011, at 06:47, John R. Levine wrote:

>> I think You miss to state the important point that MLMs usually preserve
>> the RFC5322.From when sending the email to the subscribers except in
>> digest mode where it replaces it by the list-owner(?) email.
>> 
>> This is why ADSP fails, otherwise if the RFC5322.From was replaced we
>> would have no issues with ADSP.
> 
> As I tried to say tactfully in the draft, mailing lists have worked just 
> fine for 40 years, so if DKIM or ADSP don't work with mailing lists, it's 
> not because the lists are broken.

I think I agree with this. I get very little spam from mailing lists, and very 
little spam purporting to be from mailing lists that I subscribe to. 

> ADSP seems to be carrying on the SPF tradition of claiming that it's 
> everyone else's fault that it doesn't work.

On the other hand, I still get a lot of spam. To me, that's prima facie 
evidence that email needs fixing. I use, and like, the additional information 
that SPF publishers give me.


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Ian Eiloart
Postmaster, University of Sussex
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