>>> 2) do we need a mechanism to alert the receiving MTA that you have
>>> subscribed to a mailing list, and all messages should pass through?
>
> Yes, desperately.
>
>> Certainly a possible feature, but it seems like it won't scale very well.
>
> Why not?

If I were a spammer, I would tell the victim's MTA that the victim 
subscribed, then send the spam.

These days most subscriptions are entered on a web page, and if you're 
lucky the mailer will send a confirmation message with a URL that sends 
the subscriber back to the web page.  Where's the MTA going to get the 
subscriber info? The challenges in designing a protocol that neither makes 
unreasonable demands on users and MUAs nor is easily spoofed by hostile 
mailers seem insurmountable to me.  If you're planning to keep a 
reputation database of mailers who send credible subscription 
announcements, why not just whitelist their mail?

Since as far as I know nobody does this, it's a resarch topic, so I've 
directed replies to the ASRG.  See you there.

Regards,
John Levine, [email protected], Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. http://jl.ly
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