When it comes to assimilation and the "offer" of perfection, does Microsoft fall into this category as well ? It is becoming far too ubiquitous within the business community for comfort. -----Original Message----- From: Jim Fleming To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Brian Lloyd Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 6/26/01 12:09 AM Subject: The IETF Sounds Like "The B.ORG" http://www.trekcollective.com/borg.html The IETF Sounds Like "The B.ORG" http://www.trekcollective.com/borg.html "The Borg are a species of half organic, half cybernetic organisms whose sole purpose is to become perfect, and to offer others that perfection. Offer is really the wrong word to use when referring to the Borg. They treat all other races as inferior to theirs, and therefore assimilate, to use their term, all species into their "Collective", believing that they are giving that species what it really wants." Does the IETF only develop perfect protocols ? Is IPv6 perfect ? Are -B.ORG Domain Names used by IETF Members ? Is .ORG controlled by the ICANN BORG ? Jim Fleming http://www.unir.com Mars 128n 128e http://www.unir.com/images/architech.gif http://www.unir.com/images/address.gif http://www.unir.com/images/headers.gif http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt http://msdn.microsoft.com/downloads/sdks/platform/tpipv6/start.asp http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/ietf/Current/msg12213.html http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/ietf/Current/msg12223.html ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Brian Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 10:37 PM Subject: Re: I am *NOT* a believer in the democratic process. > On Mon, 25 Jun 2001 12:01:03 PDT, Brian Lloyd said: > > threshing process. I see entirely too little threshing going on in the > > IETF these days. I think we worry to much that people will get their > > little feelers hurt. > > Send them my way. I'm renowned for my ability to tell almost anybody, > in excruciating detail, exactly why their idea is dumber than a box > of rocks. ;) > > > So let 'em build their protocol, whatever it is, and bring it to the > > IETF. The problems with a really bad protocol can be extremely educational > > and entertaining. The elegance of a really good protocol can be extremely > > educational and entertaining. I don't see how we can lose. > > Actually, a Really Bad Protocol is usually dreadfully excruciatingly > painful, unless somebody performs an MST on it. For those not > familiar with it, see http://www.scifi.com/mst3000/ for the TV show, > or http://brie.bmsc.washington.edu/people/merritt/books/Eye_of_Argon.html > for an example of the concept. > > Now, maybe if we had more protocol reviews like that... ;) > > /Valdis >
