Danny had a very big influence on the split - he had a great
analogy between milk and wine - it was ok for wine packets
to be delayed (they got better with age) but milk was something
else. That led to UDP for real-time stuff, especially voice
packets - yeah, we were doing packet voice as far back as 1975.

vint

At 11:21 PM 7/17/2001 -0700, Stephen Casner wrote:
>On Tue, 17 Jul 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Vint spoke on this very topic as the dinner speaker for the TCP/IP
>> Interoperability Forum in Monterey (the pre-Interop interop
>> conference).  As I recall from his comments, the decision to split
>> the two came about as a mutual epiphany between him and Dave Clark
>> as they were trying to figure out some way around some of the
>> stupidity in NCP.
>
>I believe Danny Cohen was one of the primary instigators for the
>split, motivated by the desire to support packet transmission of
>voice.  I recall a presentation Danny made in which he talked about
>TCP's reliability function R which was not appropriate for
>delay-sensitive voice communication.  He suggested that we could apply
>another layer to implement an R^-1 function, but that it might be more
>efficient to split TCP so that a different (transport) protocol could
>be implemented without the reliability function.
>                                                        -- Steve

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