The "folks who caused it" are the sociopaths who would rather use their
not inconsiderable technical skills to hurt other people.  I'm not aware
of any software that comes out of the box with a "launch nasty virus"
option; irresponsible people seek out and exploit weaknesses that are
unfortunately present in any non-trivial software product.  (Sendmail,
as a relevant example, has had its share of security issues over the
years; having been around for a long time in substantially the same
form, many of its problems have been discovered and patched.)  

You want true network security?  Unplug your net cable.  Otherwise, it
always has been and always will be a battle to stay ahead of the
barbarians, who will attack any structure simply because it's there.  --
Ian 

DISCLAIMER: Yes, I work for Microsoft.  No, I'm not speaking on behalf
of Microsoft, only myself.  So there.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 8:33 AM
To: H. Szumovski (via secureshell)
Cc: Keith Moore; Theodore Tso; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mark Durham
Subject: Re: Any value in this list ? 

> I especially don't like the way one
> company is lynched for every software problem in the world.  

you'd rather put the burden of responsibility for solving the
problem on somebody besides the folks who caused it?

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