Hi Robin,
At 02:33 04-09-2012, Robin Wilton wrote:
This is (again) an excellent airing of the issues, I think. One theme it exposes is the difficulty of balancing two factors:

1 - achieving informed consent, when the target audience doesn't have a mature understanding of the problem, or isn't motivated to act on such understanding as they have;

Yes.

2 - dealing with stakeholders who react as some did to Microsoft's "DNT by default" decision... i.e. by saying 'if you set a privacy feature to 'on' by default, it is not reliable because it can't be interpreted as an explicit user choice (and hence as an indication if consent).

Section 5 of the draft contains the following sentence:

  "If the intention of the person is not clear, he/she may have to
   be asked for consent."

Now, does that mean that DNT can be turned on by default (re: the above comment)? I would base the argument on the following sentence:

  "There is a reasonable expectation that the person will be provided
   with a cautionary notice to which he/she must consent to if the
   information being disclosed may adversely affect the person."

I like your point about design never being value-neutral... Wondering if there's a sense in which designers can acknowledge that and say "of course not; and these privacy-enhancing design values are legitimately preferable to those privacy-eroding ones"...

The term comes from the "Tussle" paper. That question came up during a presentation within the Security Area. It was also indirectly raised during a discussion on apps-discuss. The argument I heard is: this is how we solved the technical problem; if you have a better solution, we would like to hear it. My take is that the two sides are talking past each other.

Regards,
S. Moonesamy
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