I think the point is we have a clue, and we disagree. What is a person without 
a clue to do?

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On Feb 28, 2013, at 4:34 PM, SM <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Claudia,
> At 14:42 26-02-2013, Claudia Diaz wrote:
>> That's an interesting distinction. Translating it to concrete scenarios 
>> would make us however have to change how we usually use the terms. This can 
>> be counterintuitive in some cases:
>> 
>> - If I browse to a website and my IP is exposed, then it is a privacy 
>> problem. If I browse to the same website over Tor and my IP is exposed 
>> because Tor is attacked, then it is a security problem.
> 
> Ok.
> 
>> - If the passwords to access the confidential information at the embassy are 
>> sent in clear (because nobody bothered to encrypt them), it is a privacy 
>> problem, and not a
> 
> It's a security problem.
> 
>> - If the gov listens to my encrypted conversations (eg, by reconstructing 
>> the conversation from the traffic), it is a security problem. If the 
>> minister of interior talks over an unencrypted line about his plans to catch 
>> terrorists, then it is a privacy problem.
> 
> The last sentence is about a security problem.
> 
> Regards,
> -sm 
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