> On May 5, 2016, at 1:30 , Robin Wilton <[email protected]> wrote: > > The Internet Society has been using a definition of privacy for a number of > years now, and I still think it's a good one. Incidentally, I think Dave has > set a high bar with his request; privacy is a social construct that covers > many aspects of the way people interact with each other... it's always going > to be hard to reduce that to a single, precise technical definition, the way > you might do for, say, "gross domestic product", or "mortgage". > > Privacy can also be a subjective thing (for instance, some people think it's > important to draw their curtains in the evening - others don't). That > subjectivity makes privacy a highly contextual thing, which, again, may make > it hard to reduce to a single precise formula. But I digress... Here's that > definition: > > Privacy is about retaining the ability to disclose data consensually, and > with expectations regarding the context and scope of sharing.
Hm, I think it’s good, but...So, if I appear in public, I have disclosed my presence in a particular location and time; but my expectations on people recording me with video cameras, writing down what I do for posterity and the internet, and so on, is part of the ‘expectations’? If so, we’re back in the morass, I fear — what is ‘expected’ is at least cultural and often personal. > > I wrote a blog post drawing out the implications of each part of that > definition, here: > > http://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2013/12/language-privacy > > The result still may not be the precise technical definition Dave is looking > for… Actually, I think we need to continue to work with the vagueness; looking now for a definition is not helpful. Looking for clarity on the concepts and aspects — “what the rules are” — I think is amenable to at least significant improvement. David Singer Manager, Software Standards, Apple Inc. _______________________________________________ ietf-privacy mailing list [email protected] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-privacy
