John Levine wrote:
 
> How far back do you want to go?  People have been using subaddresses
> like [EMAIL PROTECTED] since 1991.  Mailing lists have been using VERP
> schemes to encode per-message and per-recipient information into the
> bounce address at least since 1998.

Let's limit it to "percent-hack" in RFC 1123, anything older is
really too old. ;-)  I can't tell if VERP qualifies as example,
that is for mailing lists, folks sending out of office vacation
mails to mailing lists are a hopeless case (= no argument pro or
con BATV).

> The advice in 3834 to send vacation responses to the bounce 
> address was already dubious in 2004

Strongly disagree, in fact I'm waiting for a compelling reason
to propose its advancement to DS.  Better than the normative
references in RFC 5230 and sieve-notify-mailto.

> Yes, I know that a sensible vacation program that followed
> all the advice in 3834 wouldn't respond to list mail at all,
> but as we all know, life is not that tidy.

If they ignore RFC 3834 they get what they asked for, I have
"spamcopped" dozens of RFC 3834 violations.  Not counting, but
I always add the 3834 reference manually in these spam reports,
after all it is a relatively new RFC (in relation to say 1123).

RFCs 3834 + 5230 are no showstopppers for BATV, but it needs
more than what you have in the I-D (chapter 5).  

 Frank

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