On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 08:50:19AM -0700, J.D. Falk wrote:
> 
> On Mar 25, 2010, at 1:56 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
> 
> > I said this to Jeff in person at IETF but here it is for the list:
> > 
> > It's my understanding that this was based on a collection of various 
> > SMTP text replies being returned by various ISPs when objectionable 
> > content is presented for delivery.  Some similarities were noted, and 
> > then some consolidation was attempted and aligned using the proposed 
> > x.8.y codes.  There is to date no actual implementation of this, and 
> > no information about how agents that observe these codes during SMTP 
> > transactions (i.e. senders) would respond to them.  That is to say: 
> > There's no implementation at either end yet.
> > 
> > I think that's fine for Informational or Experimental, but this draft 
> > is seeking Proposed Standard status.  I'd like to see the results of 
> > some implementation experiments at least.
> 
> Yup, me too.  I'd also be curious how the most common MTAs (sendmail, 
> postfix, exchange, etc) react to reply codes they've never seen before.  
> They /should/ handle 'em gracefully, but there could be surprises.

Has anyone heard of any problems dealing with Yahoo!'s 421 4.16.55?

  http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/mail/postmaster/errors/421-ts01.html

If not, then we can probably expect the same with x.8.y, yes?

> There's been some talk on one of the MAAWG lists about this, but it's 
> members-only; I'll encourage the participants to repost their comments here.

I'm interested in the SMTP conversation being the only conversation
that needs to take place about a given message.  To the extent that
something like this proposal can get me to that goal, without driving
follow up questions from senders (e.g., "I got 554 5.8.5 unacceptable
content; what do I have to do to make my content acceptable?") then
I'm interested in seeing this move forward.  

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