On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Steve Atkins <[email protected]> wrote:
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>
> On Aug 11, 2010, at 2:06 PM, Jeff Macdonald wrote:
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>> On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Steve Atkins <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I don't believe that legitimate senders of email are likely to commonly see 
>>> really long delays at the end of data, and I don't much care if other 
>>> senders are inconvenienced.
>>
>> As a sender, over the years, I've seen duplicate messages to Y!
>> increase. The MTA we use has RFC suggested limits. We increased those
>> limits to reduce duplicates. We didn't yell at Y! that they should
>> follow the RFC better. It was easy to visualize that with the massive
>> amount of mailboxes they have that things would take longer than they
>> should from time to time.
>>
>> So I find it strange that some folks are seeking to suggest lower
>> values instead of realizing that those MTA clients are making a
>> conscience decision to not follow RFC guidelines at the risk of
>> increased duplicates. I'd say reducing those numbers would be an
>> endorsement of their bad behaviour. I don't think that is something we
>> should be doing.
>>
>> If clarification is sought, I like John's language. I'd also say keep
>> the 10 minute time-out. Otherwise I think the existing language is
>> fine.
>
> I'm not sure what you're responding to here. It doesn't appear to
> be anything implied in the mail of mine you're responding to -
> neither the quoted sentence nor the rest of it.
>
> I'm certainly not suggesting lower timeout values.

Oh, sorry about that. I wasn't implying you suggested that. I'm
basically in agreement with what you said, except that I have seen
longer delays. However I don't view those delays as an inconvenience,
just a fact of life in the fight against spam.



-- 
Jeff Macdonald
Ayer, MA

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