Vernon Schryver wrote:
>
> > > > > think we mean having unincumbered availability of the common application
> > > > > protocols, email, http, ftp, ssh, ...
> > > >
> > > > that's not quite enough; in the UK we're seeing cable-modem ISPs
> > > > attempt to restrict services to those applications, or to a subset of
> > > > those applications (lotsa luck setting up an http server or using
> > > > ssh.)
> > > > ...
> > >
> > > and also like AOL's redirecting proxies for out-bound SMTP?
> > > and the port-25 filtering of many ISP's including UUNET?
> > From: Rick H Wesson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > would pacbell filtering all multicast at all CPE equipemt fall into your
> > bucket, where do you draw the line?
At IP, as Bob Braden said.
SMTP is _over_ IP.
Multicast _redefines_ IP (or portions of the address space thereof); it
could be argued that a service provider sells 'Internet' without selling
multicast IP.
Joe
