> -----Original Message----- > From: Jeffrey Altman [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 4:03 PM > To: V Guruprasad > Cc: Ken Hornstein; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Bottom feeders > > > On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Ken Hornstein wrote: > > > > > That hasn't been my experience; I've seen what can only be described > as > > > an "old-boy" network in operation. I'm not saying that such a thing > is > > > necessarily bad, just that sometimes it takes significant effort to > > > overcome it if you're a newbie. > > > > Both the "old-boy" network and the undue skepticism are natural and > occur > > in every field. My intuition is, if you try to suppress them, they'll > show > > up in other ways! > > > > On the other hand, I was a first-timer at the 49th IETF (although I was > > already known to some in mmedia wg before), and had a rather atrocious > > proposal to lobby for (see my I-D - you *can't* possibly believe it at > > first reading :-). I've seen no less openness and no more skepticism at > > the IETF than within my own organisation. I think the people are > wonderful, > > including many "old timers" - I quite enjoyed the many first-hand > stories > > in the many hallway discussions. > > But here is the difference between your first time experience and > those of others. You were already known in one of the WG communities; > and you came with an I-D that you were trying to build support for. > In other words, you were a participant rather than a lurker. > > You are exactly the type of first timers that should come to IETF > meetings. > > > > Jeffrey Altman * Sr.Software Designer C-Kermit 7.1 Alpha available > The Kermit Project @ Columbia University includes Secure Telnet and FTP > http://www.kermit-project.org/ using Kerberos, SRP, and > [EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenSSL. SSH soon to follow.
