In message <4.2.2.20010323090914.01abfd30@localhost>, Margaret Wasserman writes : > >Not to pick on Jon specifically, but how is this common IETF >attitude consistent with the IETF's stated commitment to >open process? > >At 06:52 AM 3/23/01 , Jon Crowcroft wrote: > >>also,the wireless access fro mthe pub was inspired! we got really >>serious bar bof work done without tourists kibbitzing > > We're getting far afield, but "tourist" refers to someone who attends and possibly tries to participate in working groups without having done their homework. I've lost track of how many times this week I heard "I haven't read the drafts, but..." or "Did you read the draft? No, but..." --Steve Bellovin, http://www.research.att.com/~smb
- Kudos to MSP IETF hosts & other ramblings RJ Atkinson
- RE: Kudos to MSP IETF hosts & other rambling... David R. Oran
- Re: Kudos to MSP IETF hosts & other rambling... Jon Crowcroft
- Re: Kudos to MSP IETF hosts & other ramb... David C Lawrence
- Re: Kudos to MSP IETF hosts & other rambling... Margaret Wasserman
- Re: Kudos to MSP IETF hosts & other ramb... Jon Crowcroft
- Re: Kudos to MSP IETF hosts & other rambling... Steven M. Bellovin
- Re: Kudos to MSP IETF hosts & other ramb... Dave Crocker
- Re: Kudos to MSP IETF hosts & other rambling... Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Kudos to MSP IETF hosts & other rambling... Steven M. Bellovin
- Re: Kudos to MSP IETF hosts & other rambling... Margaret Wasserman
- RE: Kudos to MSP IETF hosts & other rambling... Hagop Karaoghlanian
- RE: Kudos to MSP IETF hosts & other ramb... Fred Baker
- Re: Kudos to MSP IETF hosts & other rambling... Jon Crowcroft
- Re: Kudos to MSP IETF hosts & other ramb... John W Noerenberg II
- RE: Kudos to MSP IETF hosts & other rambling... graham . travers
