> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doug Royer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 4:14 PM
> To: Hollenbeck, Scott
> Cc: 'Dawson Frank (NMP/Irving)'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Last Call: Date and Time on the Internet: Timestamps to
> Proposed Standard
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Hollenbeck, Scott" wrote:
> . ...
> > 
> > Yes, we should have a standard, but that standard should be 
> usable across
> > the IETF.  In the provreg WG, we're using XML Schema to 
> specify a protocol
> > because XML and XML Schema provide needed extensibility 
> features.  I can't
> > use 2445-compliant date-time format because XML Schema 
> won't accept it.
> 
> Now I am confused, one of the formats in that draft is without
> dashes and spaces - then it is EXACTLY like RFC2445.
> So how can XML Schema handle them then? It looks like the draft
> is saying "this is the proposed standard including a version
> that XML can not use".

True, the draft specifies a format that is exactly like the 2445 format.
That's good, it doesn't preclude the earlier work.  It also specifies
another format (the "extended" format) that _does_ work with XML Schema.  I
believe that's good as well.

> So I would agree that there are different needs. That point
> does not seem to persuade me that a 3rd format should also be 
> documented.
> 
> > We can debate the merits (or detriments) of using non-IETF specified
> > technologies for IETF work, but that's not the issue at hand.  The
> > Timestamps draft describes formats that can be used where 
> 2445-format can't,
> > and at least in the case of the provreg WG that flexibility 
> is needed.
> 
> I also don't care if it is IETF or W3C work. I just don't see the
> need to create a proposed standard this is mostly like ISO, kind
> of like 2445, and you think would work with a (not yet?) recommended
> W3C proposal. My point is - what's the point?

XML Schema is a W3C Recommendation as of 2 May 2001 (reference provided in
three parts below).  It's being used in other IETF work.  In that other work
I currently have to cite an ISO document as the normative date-time format
reference.  I can cite the Timestamps draft if it becomes an RFC.  I can't
cite 2445.  Maybe citing an ISO document isn't a big deal, but I'd rather
cite a freely available RFC if I could.

-Scott-

[1] http://www.w3.org/TR/xmlschema-0/

[2] http://www.w3.org/TR/xmlschema-1/

[3] http://www.w3.org/TR/xmlschema-2/

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