>>Multicast is necessarily a LOT weaker:
>>
>>      1) I can get a copy of packets by normal operation
>>      (join a group). there is no equivalent for UDP,
>>      notably for paths that aren't shared.

Again, not in all cases.  You over-simplify the effectiveness of scoping.
You can't have it both ways.  Yes, there is a situation where you can obtain
a copy of a multicast packet through standard operation.  But the fact
that scoping and addressing make it non-trivial and the fact that "normal"
operation doesn't prevent you from snooping UDP packets shrinks the
gap from a "LOT" weaker.  And as I said before, if data security is important,
effectively there is no gap. 

>>      2) UDP has application, network, and tunnel encryption that
>>      is both widely deployed and widely used. there is
>>      no equivalent for multicast.

I disagree...  a number of commercial multicast apps have encryption.
Don't try and argue now that some relative percentage of multicast apps
have less encryption than unicast apps.  You're comparing a protocol that 
has been around a lot longer than multicast and trying to make an 
apples-to-apples comparison based on less availability.

And for the record, multicast is UDP.

-Kevin

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