OK, so what happens when someone else uses my address, perhaps using 
my passport, captured from some mail sent by me to someone? 

I think the term of art is "being Joe Jobbed".

Every now and then,  I get a bounced report that claims something I sent 
is being returned, but it was not sent by me.  This "something" is most 
often spam sent to someone else.  Sometimes it contains a virus.
Apparently this  is a trick to get me to open it.

Anyway, I think your Passport Scheme needs some more work.

Cheers...\Stef

At 11:50 +0100 6/6/03, Graham Klyne wrote:
>At 12:12 05/06/03 -0700, Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote:
>>A spam sender could attempt to use disposable certificates in the same way
>>that IP addresses and dialup accounts are considered disposable. This is
>>unlikely to work for long, the spam sender can set up lots of shell
>>companies at the same address but if the CA keeps authenticating to the same
>>address or phone number the pattern will soon become apparent.
>
>Hmmm... is there an economic play here?
>
><background>
>First, briefly, my view of the spam situation.  I don't think it's fundamentally an 
>Internet protocol design issue (though some design tweaks may help).  Essentially, I 
>think people currently have the choice of
>(1) putting filters in place and accept the loss of some non-spam mail, or
>(2) accepting a deluge of spam, and not lose any mail.  In practice, I think this 
>option doesn't exist, because I find that (lacking spam filters) I do lose a few 
>pieces of non-spam mail because I don't recognize the sender or subject.  So I see a 
>way forward to be a "passport" mechanism to reliably bypass automated spam filters, a 
>kind of whitelist++.
></background>
>
>So back to my question: is there an economic play here?
>
>(I was offered the opinion once that a big *disadvantage* of email compared with fax 
>for business transactions was that it has almost zero incremental cost of use.)
>
>I'm thinking of a cert issued for a small sum of money, without any authentication 
>other than the purchaser promises something like "I promise not to spam with this 
>certificate".  At the earliest evidence of it being used for spamming, it is revoked. 
> The price should be small enough to be accessible to any reasonable person, but high 
>enough that the bill for daily or hourly renewal would become significant.
>
>Maybe crazy, just thinking aloud...
>
>#g
>
>
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