Okay.  Can somebody please tell me what the relevance of this is to the
IETF.  This is absolute noise.  Take this thread off-line.  This list is
starting to annoy the heck out of me.  I am starting to get the same feeling
about this list and SPAM.  The list is starting to be unusable.

Moderator please do your job and moderate!!!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marc Schneiders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 9:15 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: Rob Austein; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Last 7 days on the IETF list
> 
> 
> I am sure you are right, but in the list below the bytes and 
> number-of-messages rankings are more or less identical. Since 
> this is in the context of overload of the list by a limited 
> number of people, the number of bytes real contribution is 
> not relevant. People don't read it anymore. All what counts 
> is number of (slight) irritations while reading mail and 
> total bytes traffic (if we pay for it).
> 
> What you want to know, isn't ascertainable through some log 
> analyzing script. You have to read all the messages. And we 
> do not do that anymore.
> 
> On Fri, 30 May 2003, at 17:43 [=GMT-0700], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > I don't think posting message size is quite appropriate as part of 
> > your statistics and even more particularly as a criteria to 
> order the 
> > list. Unless I'm mistaken you're calculating bytes for 
> entire message 
> > but often
> > > 75% comes from another message being replied to and so you can't 
> > > really
> > judge amount of input the actual poster added to the 
> message. If you 
> > want message bytes statistics, you could try to see what 
> parts of that 
> > were not from previous message and only calculate size 
> based on that.
> >
> > On Fri, 30 May 2003, Rob Austein wrote:
> >
> > > Traffic statistics (as seen from my cave, your milage may 
> vary) for 
> > > the last seven days on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list.
> > >
> > > Conclusions, if any, are left as an exercise for the reader.
> > >
> > >
> > >   Messages   |     Bytes       | Who
> > > -------+-----+-------+---------+------------------------
> > >  11.4% |  53 | 13.9% |  233614 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >  12.2% |  57 | 10.1% |  170963 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   7.5% |  35 |  7.2% |  121074 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   3.0% |  14 |  4.8% |   80253 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   3.9% |  18 |  3.6% |   60755 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   3.4% |  16 |  3.5% |   58293 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   3.6% |  17 |  2.6% |   43278 | 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   2.8% |  13 |  2.2% |   37288 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   2.4% |  11 |  2.3% |   37930 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   2.1% |  10 |  2.2% |   37479 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   2.1% |  10 |  2.2% |   36561 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   2.1% |  10 |  1.9% |   31676 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   1.9% |   9 |  1.8% |   31053 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   1.9% |   9 |  1.8% |   31016 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   1.9% |   9 |  1.7% |   27856 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   1.9% |   9 |  1.6% |   27349 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   1.9% |   9 |  1.5% |   24511 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   1.1% |   5 |  2.1% |   34761 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   1.7% |   8 |  1.3% |   21321 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   1.3% |   6 |  1.7% |   28495 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   1.3% |   6 |  1.2% |   19636 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   1.3% |   6 |  1.1% |   19259 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.9% |   4 |  1.5% |   24586 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   1.1% |   5 |  1.0% |   16989 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.9% |   4 |  0.9% |   15992 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.9% |   4 |  0.9% |   14418 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.9% |   4 |  0.8% |   13896 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.9% |   4 |  0.7% |   12281 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.9% |   4 |  0.7% |   11323 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.9% |   4 |  0.7% |   11275 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.6% |   3 |  0.8% |   13511 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.6% |   3 |  0.7% |   12302 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.4% |   2 |  0.9% |   14402 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.4% |   2 |  0.8% |   14209 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.6% |   3 |  0.6% |   10191 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.6% |   3 |  0.6% |   10181 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.6% |   3 |  0.5% |    9109 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.6% |   3 |  0.5% |    8328 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.6% |   3 |  0.5% |    7803 | 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.6% |   3 |  0.5% |    7584 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.6% |   3 |  0.4% |    6866 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.2% |   1 |  0.8% |   13680 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.4% |   2 |  0.5% |    8935 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.4% |   2 |  0.5% |    7722 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.4% |   2 |  0.5% |    7620 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.4% |   2 |  0.4% |    6916 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.4% |   2 |  0.4% |    6630 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.4% |   2 |  0.4% |    6470 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.4% |   2 |  0.4% |    6156 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.2% |   1 |  0.6% |    9711 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.4% |   2 |  0.3% |    5077 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.4% |   2 |  0.3% |    4924 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.4% |   2 |  0.3% |    4618 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.4% |   2 |  0.3% |    4576 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.4% |   2 |  0.3% |    4438 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.4% |   2 |  0.3% |    4335 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.2% |   1 |  0.5% |    7750 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.2% |   1 |  0.4% |    7195 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.2% |   1 |  0.4% |    6953 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.2% |   1 |  0.4% |    6315 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.2% |   1 |  0.4% |    6293 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.2% |   1 |  0.4% |    6003 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.2% |   1 |  0.3% |    5766 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.2% |   1 |  0.3% |    5699 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.2% |   1 |  0.3% |    5206 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.2% |   1 |  0.3% |    4923 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.2% |   1 |  0.3% |    4425 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.2% |   1 |  0.3% |    4388 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.2% |   1 |  0.3% |    4306 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.2% |   1 |  0.2% |    4096 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.2% |   1 |  0.2% |    3465 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.2% |   1 |  0.2% |    3310 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.2% |   1 |  0.2% |    3214 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.2% |   1 |  0.2% |    3194 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.2% |   1 |  0.2% |    3085 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.2% |   1 |  0.2% |    3077 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.2% |   1 |  0.2% |    2958 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.2% |   1 |  0.2% |    2946 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.2% |   1 |  0.2% |    2782 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.2% |   1 |  0.2% |    2761 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.2% |   1 |  0.2% |    2661 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.2% |   1 |  0.2% |    2621 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.2% |   1 |  0.1% |    2510 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.2% |   1 |  0.1% |    2416 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.2% |   1 |  0.1% |    2323 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.2% |   1 |  0.1% |    2303 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.2% |   1 |  0.1% |    2265 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.2% |   1 |  0.1% |    2259 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.2% |   1 |  0.1% |    2175 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   0.2% |   1 |  0.1% |    1789 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > -------+-----+-------+---------+------------------------
> > > 100.0% | 466 |100.0% | 1684907 | Total
> > >
> >
> >
> 
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