What Doug Royer is complaining about is that his mail client previously
told him right away. He didn't have to wait for a bounce. Now he has to
wait for a bounce, and that is a "big change".
As I pointed, this is incorrect behavior to begin with, on the part of
MUA. It is therefore, "not a big change". Proper MUA's previously handed
the message to a relay, and got a bounce. Proper MUA's still get a bounce.
You still get a bounce, and you still find out that the domain is
incorrect. Nothing has changed.
Your assertions below are irrelevant to the original message. As such,
they are in fact sophistry.
--Dean
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 11:45:14 EDT, Dean Anderson said:
> > I think you have pointed out that this is indeed the function of a mail
> > server, not a mail client. It is a bug.
>
> OK Dean, let's go back and look at the original message.
>
> On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Doug Royer wrote:
> > Before the change if I email [EMAIL PROTECTED], the email tool would
> > tell me immedatally
> > that no such host exists.
>
> Well you know what Dean? When I mail to a duff address, my MUA (exmh)
> hands it off to a proper MTA, and the MTA gets an error. And it hands a bounce
> message back to my MUA, which tells me about it.
>
> Hey - look what my mail tool is telling me:
>
> ----
> (multipart/report)
> Human-readable report (text/plain)
> **********************************************
> ** THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY **
> ** YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE **
> **********************************************
>
> The original message was received at Tue, 16 Sep 2003 15:42:05 -0400 (EDT)
> from IDENT:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [10.1.1.13]
>
> ----- Transcript of session follows -----
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Deferred: Connection timed out with vsu.vsu.edu.
> Warning: message still undelivered after 1 day
> Will keep trying until message is 3 days old
> ----
>
> The DSN was generated on a Alphaserver running Sendmail some 8 miles
> from where I'm typing. My laptop never even tried to resolve vsu.edu in connection
> with this transaction. But I'm getting the notification from my MUA.
>
> And neither is there any actual justification for your claim that the original
> poster's
> mail client tried to do the lookup.
>
> So all your sophistry about "the client shouldn't be doing it" is just that.
> Sophistry.
>
