Hi,

just a summary of my last night's (german time) experiences:

- mbone is not available at most (german) provider's
- there are no tunnel providers anymore
- even those who had mbone access couldn't receive 
  the IETF stream
- The oregon multicast crew took several hours to 
  answer to a mail request (I guess they all were in 
  Seoul), but all I received was

     You aren't going to be able to get multicast connectivity in 
     a couple of hours. A full day is usually sufficient to
     arrange for multicast if all goes well.

     You'll be able to watch the archived video when we get back
     from IETF and have had a chance to edit the video.


  That's ridiculous and not a good advertising for IETF.
  "A full day if all goes well" is a joke. (Why does it take
  a day to enter a line to an mrouted ?)

- Most surprisingly many, many people seem to have had problems
  with accessing the mcast streams, but actually nobody seems to 
  ever have spent a minute to think about how to access mcast.

  I was under the impression as if I was the very first human
  asking for an mbone tunnel and mbone tunnels would be a 
  brand new invention not yet available.

  What's the point in sending multicast video sessions if nobody
  cares how to receive them? Of course, sending to a multicast
  IP address makes live easier in the way to not need to care
  for the receiver's address, but how many successful receivers
  have there been after all?


regards
Hadmut

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