[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian E Carpenter)  wrote on 21.10.04 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Patent holders who choose to stay outside the standards setting
> process are not in the least impressed by the IPR policy of the
> standards body, whether it is the W3C, the IETF, or anywhere else.
> Those are the patent holders you need to worry about, not the ones
> who play nice by helping to set open standards. You're shooting at
> the wrong target by shooting at the IETF and its participants.

I believe the Sender-ID case to be a counter example to your claim. The  
patent holder in this case has, IMO, made it sufficiently clear that he  
*is* one of those we need to worry about.

MfG Kai

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