Pete -

> >This debate between John and Pete seems to be at such an abstract 
> >meta level to me, that I have difficulty to try and see what it 
> >means for the IAS BCP doc that I thinkwe are trying to get consensus 
> >on.
> >
> >As I said, it could be just me, but I seem unable to map it to any 
> >issue(s) with the curremt text in rev 02 of the doc.
> 
> Ignoring John's caricature of my position: I think I am suggesting an 
> addition to the current BCP which more or less says:
> 
> "This BCP will take effect upon adoption of the BCP by the IESG and 
> the concurrent <<insert thing that ISOC does which codifies in some 
> interesting way the adoption of the relationship by ISOC>>"

This sounds pretty concrete ... any agreement has to be ratified
by both parties and the current draft doesn't say how that will
happen by ISOC.  

> 
> I also suggested to insert for the part in <<>>:
> 
> "adoption of an ISOC by-law signifying the adoption of the principles 
> laid out in this BCP."
> 

I'm fine with your <<>> or any other <<>>=="yes".

Regards,,

Carl

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