On Fri, 7 Oct 2005, Eliot Lear wrote:

> Randy.Dunlap wrote:
> > I don't know if they are related, but your point seems very valid
> > to me.  IOW, from watching and reading over many years, the recent
> > (2?) years seems like a "crying" wish to get back to a successful
> > IETF, back to its hayday (or glory days), instead of what it has
> > become lately.
>
> "Things aren't what they used to be.  What's more they never were."
>                                 -- Lee Hayes of the Weavers

Wow, that's sad.  So it's all been smoke and mirrors?

-- 
~Randy

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