Dave Crocker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At 5:04 PM -0800 12/20/05, Eric Rescorla wrote: > >> > Since experimentation resulted in significant Internet deployment > >>> of these specifications, the DKIM working group will make every > >>> reasonable attempt to keep changes compatible with what is > >>> deployed, making incompatible changes only when they are necessary > >>> for the success of the specifications. > >> > >> As I argued on the DKIM working group list, I think this text is a bad > >> idea. Part of IETF having change control of a specification is having > >> the ability to make changes, and the bar of "necessary to the success of > > And Eric seem to keep ignoring, the question of how much change to > target, when taking in existing technology, is an established point > that has been experienced a number of times already. Different > choices have been made. Those seeking to field DKIM have reached a > consensus on charter language that reflect their choice for this case. > (In other words, Eric, rough consensus has been established on this > issue.)
Rough consensus inside some subgroup, not inside IETF. Indeed, that's precisely the question that a Last Call is designed to answer. > The impression, at this point, is that those seeking to remove all > limits on the technical changes in fact have no interest in protecting > the existing work. That may be your impression, but that doesn't mean it's the case. > In that light, the folks who developed DKIM would be quite seriously > crazy to hand it over to the IETF. I agree that if they aren't willing to cede change control to IETF then they shouldn't hand it over, yes. > >> the specification" is way too high for that. > > Too high for what? Instead of arguing principles Eric, needs to > indicate what specific technical work that is excluded by this > language is actually essential to the goals of DKIM. Yes, you've asserted this repeatedly. And I've repeatedly disagreed. I don't see much point in us going over that ground again. -Ekr _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
