> > > They seem to have it in place of the word "Neustar".... CNRI
> > > used to have their name there, and no logo. CNRI's had its
> > > name there at least since 1996, so it's kind of traditional
> > > to name the operator.
> > It's traditional, and I think fair. I'll ask the IAD to see if
> > we can get the scale adjusted.
> Well, being very reluctant to get the IETF involved with
> advertising any for-profit entity, I'm not sure it is fair.
I agree and in fact would extend this to include non-profit entities not
directly involved in standards work.
> More important, I'd argue that the "traditional" part is
> something we just got ourselves out of at great pain. The CNRI/
> Foretec logo belonged there as part of the general notion that
> the secretariat was something that CNRI was supplying to the
> IETF, not a set of services for which the IETF was contracting.
> It went along with the notion of the secretariat being "hosted"
> somewhere, rather than being an contractual activity for which
> the IETF was paying. Making that distinction, and obtaining the
> control it implies, was arguably a significant part of the
> motivation for the IASA.
Exactly so. The type of underlying relationship we have has changed (hopefully
for the better) and that argues strongly for a break with past precedents.
> In the present environment, there is, IMO, a significantly
> stronger argument for adding logos for every company that is
> supporting the IETF via significant earmarked contributions to
> ISOC than there is for adding a logo for Neustar or any other
> entity that is, in theory at least, providing a service to the
> IETF for which the IETF/IASA are paying full value. I don't
> think we want all of those other logos either, and that suggests
> that the home page should display only the IETF logo and perhaps
> the ISOC one, but not those of any contractors the IASA should
> happen to decide to hire.
Complete agreement here.
Ned
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