If implementability of the specification is an issue, my company has
an implementation of bootstrapping 802.11i PSK mode based on running
PANA over Uncontrolled Port.  The implementation works without
modifying a WiFi hardware or its firmware.  We have a plan to publish
the source code of the implementation in Open Diameter project.

Regards,
Yoshihiro Ohba

On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 11:45:25AM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote:
> >>>>> "Yoshihiro" == Yoshihiro Ohba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> e email discussion over
>     Yoshihiro> the EAP mailing list quoted below, I had a short
>     Yoshihiro> conversation on this issue with Jesse Walker during
>     Yoshihiro> IEEE 802 interim meeting in January in order to
>     Yoshihiro> follow-up the email discussion and understand the input
>     Yoshihiro> from Jesse more.  As far as I understand, he seemed to
>     Yoshihiro> agree on this possible interpretation while he
>     Yoshihiro> mentioned that there is no existing 802.11i
>     Yoshihiro> implementation that uses 802.1X Uncontrolled Port for
>     Yoshihiro> non-802.1X frame exchange, but I may be still
>     Yoshihiro> misunderstanding something.  Also, for the sake of
>     Yoshihiro> completeness of the email discussion over the EAP
>     Yoshihiro> mailing list, the following email that I sent in
>     Yoshihiro> response to msg03872 should be quoted as well:
>     Yoshihiro> http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/eap/msg03879.html.]
> 
> 
> So, the implementability of our specifications is a significant
> concern.  If we do not expect there to be environments in which a
> feature of our spec will be implementable, then we should remove that
> feature.
> 
> Implementability is sufficiently important that RFC 2026 explicitly
> gives the IESG the ability to request an implementation report even
> for publication at proposed standard when it has questions about
> whether a particular feature can be implemented interoperably.
> 
> --Sam
> 
> 

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