> From: Kurt Erik Lindqvist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

> > NAT is a dead end.  If the Internet does not develop a way 
> to obsolete 
> > NAT, the Internet will die.  It will gradually be replaced 
> by networks 
> > that are more-or-less IP based but which only run a small number of 
> > applications, poorly, and expensively.
> 
> 
> ...or you will see an overlay network build on top of 
> NAT+IPv4 that abstracts the shortcomings away - aka what the 
> peer to peer networks are doing. End-to-end addressing...

Precisely. Just what is this fetish about keeping the IP address the same as
the packet travels?

If there is a way for the host to determine that it is behind a NAT and to
request external registration of necessary ports the whole process can be
made completely transparent to the hosts at each end.

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