Hi Dave,
thanks for your feedback.
I guess your mail (and Jari's mail) try to be a little bit less biased
in this discussion.
~snip~
> By contrast observations such as "there are better solutions"
or 'different solutions'
> moves into the
> fuzzier and more subjective realm of trying to predict market
> preferences. The
> IETF is not very good at making these predictions.
That's very nicely phrased. I guess we could have a long discussion
about this subject and why other organizations do not use some IETF
protocols. We all know that there is the 'not invented here' problem,
sometimes a company marketing story ('company X has developed it's own
proprietary protocol') and in some other cases it is an IPR issue.
If we now raise the bar for IETF protocols to a level where we consider
work as 'successful' or 'good' when other organizations make use of
these protocols then we should change our workstyle a little bit. We
could just rubber stamp protocols these SDOs developed on their own ...
~snip~
A small comment when it comes to understand documents:
I have realized that it is popular in standardization organizations to
be temporarly and selectively confused about some things.
I suspect that you can copy-and-paste Sam's mail, replace PANA with
another protocol and working group name, post it to the IETF mailing
list and you might get a similar response.
> I would find it particularly helpful to have a concise
> statement from someone
> who says that PANA will not work. Cannot be implemented
> (properly) by virtue of
> technical errors or documentation too confusing to
> understand. Or cannot be
> deployed and used, by virtue of administrative complexity or, again,
> documentation too confusing to understand.
>
> Absent this, I will ask why it is productive to note that the
> emperor is
> pursuing an idiosynchratic sartorial style?
Sam accidently posted his mail shortly after the heated discussion of
PANA usage at the 3GPP2.
>From the comments on this mailing list it is obvious which company was
not favor for PANA (for whatever reason).
Ciao
Hannes
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