> Without knowing the specifics of Jon's overrides - I can only say 
> that those I know of involved poorly written or unclear documents 
> that Jon was exercising reasonable editorial control over.  If you're 
> saying that we don't want an editor for the series - e.g. just 
> publish what the IESG approves - let's just shut down the RFC series 
> and open up an Internet Standards series that gets published by 
> placing it on the website - e.g. closer to what we do with the ID series.
> 

        Mike (and others w/ shorter institutional memories) you 
        may recall that there have been several series of Internet
        related documents, of which the RFC series is but one.
        Jon was the IEN archive'est (is that a word?) at the same
        time he was the RFC editor.

        One very reasonable choice, IMHO, is to let the IESG/IAB/ISOC
        folks create a new, unlinked series of Internet Standards
        that does not involve the (apparently) messy problem of
        dealing with material that does not get funneled into its
        fairly rigid suite of processes.  I've not heard a compelling 
        technical reason to "rein-in" the RFC process, only legalistic
        ones.

--bill

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