Keith Moore wrote:
> Joe,
> 
> What you say might have been true up until say the mid 1980s, but
> today, it's hard to defend that statement.  For many years the vast
> majority of RFCs have been produced by IETF either from working groups
> or individual submissions.

That vast number does not establish the credibility of the series; the
original ones do. Congestion control originated in a Sigcomm paper, not
the IETF. At the end of the day, it is the IETF that is, IMO, expendable.

(Joe wrote:)
>> The term RFC is one the IETF is getting a free ride on.
>>
>> RFCs core to the Internet itself were independent, pre-IETF submissions.
>> It is THEY that establish the utility of the series, not the IETF.

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